Having caught The Rona and been prescribed ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, I phoned my pharmacy to ask if they stocked them. The pharmacist says yes, then asks what's it for. When I answered covid, and the pharmacist says we won't fill the prescription. I called one of the national chains and they also refused to fill the prescription. I called CVS and they filled it. This was in the Greater Cleveland area. I medicined up and was over it in 5 days, although I was tired for 2 more weeks. Don't let anybody bullshit you, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine worked.
What the heck happened to Texas?? It has so devolved into a mish-mash of progressive and neutered conservative politics over the last 10-15 years it is almost unrecognizable as the red-blooded state it once was.
It has been utterly poisoned by progressive infiltrators into every sector and, IMHO, Abbott has done horrible job at keeping the barbarians outside the gates, though he’s far from alone in that.
The Left has long fantasized of co-opting Texas, particularly for its electoral votes, but also to tear down a one time bastion of a conservative model state.
They’ve played a long game and have now come within inches of succeeding.
Whaat? Haha! I don’t know what you’re reading but cancel those subscriptions or toss the books because that is utter nonsense.
He’s gotten in bed with far too many corporate grifters and sold out his principles - if he ever had any - in far too many arenas, like green energy, and in Texas of all places!
He talks a good game and throws a bone now then when the political winds require it, but he’s proven himself to be a fraud and I dare say corrupt.
As a pharmacist, I do not think I would refuse to fill a prescription from a doctor unless I called him and gave him a good reason why. Is it because of an allergy, interaction, or side effect? Then contact the physician. Otherwise, I keep my politics, religion, and personal feelings out of my profession.
We should note that this area of regulation stemmed from an attempt for government to control drug prices. It has been effective not only at raising prices, but in disguising the increase in costs under various health care "insurance" schemes. The cartel you describe has a government enforced collection system, in the end enforced by the police power of the state.
I am a medical doctor licensed in Georgia and until recently New York, so I am fairly familiar with these problems. In basic sciences, the training with pharmacists probably overlaps enough to be comparable, for example, biochemistry and general physiology. But to think there is adequate clinical training is very mistaken. I am very surprised to read that Texas has erected this gatekeeping system. I don't want the hassles of dispensing meds, but to have to deal with an obstructive pharmacist would be absurd on its face not to mention infuriating. It's not unlike the HMO / prepaid program needing to pre-approve procedures before they get done and where you have to answer a hundred questions from a nurse overseer. I make no money nor participate in these prescriptive orders (medication prescriptions, radiology requests, etc). Very disturbing to say the least.
Sorry, @Amuse, you are WAY off base on this one. Physicians receive little education on pharmaceuticals while licensed pharmacists spend 6 years becoming experts on the subject. For decades physicians have learned more from drug salesmen than they learned in training. Always, the best interest of the patient is served by the teamwork of pharmacist with the physician.
Cooperation between providers seems ideal but Amuse suggests a unilateral arrangement. Not in TX so can’t know. I do count on my pharmacy to advise me and often ask given a new prescription. Pharmacists should advise not decide.
My friend who owns independent pharmacies and is morally against abortion pills, is legally mandated to dispense them in his state. He prices them sky high and refers customers to another pharmacy telling them they can buy them much cheaper there.
Having built a “switch” for the Texas Independent Pharmacist Association (late 90’s), I understand your position, but it’s fundamentally wrong. Have you ever interviewed an independent pharmacist? Have you interviewed a “corporate “ one?
You throw around “safety “ like it’s a casual word and give zero consideration to the training these folks are given to specialize in chemistry that the doctors haze comparably ZERO knowledge.
- pharm shopping
- bad interactions
- side affects
These are just a handful of the “safety “ concerns that you skip past in your rambling post.
I have always been impressed by your reporting but I sense a new level of insight
Having caught The Rona and been prescribed ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, I phoned my pharmacy to ask if they stocked them. The pharmacist says yes, then asks what's it for. When I answered covid, and the pharmacist says we won't fill the prescription. I called one of the national chains and they also refused to fill the prescription. I called CVS and they filled it. This was in the Greater Cleveland area. I medicined up and was over it in 5 days, although I was tired for 2 more weeks. Don't let anybody bullshit you, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine worked.
What the heck happened to Texas?? It has so devolved into a mish-mash of progressive and neutered conservative politics over the last 10-15 years it is almost unrecognizable as the red-blooded state it once was.
It has been utterly poisoned by progressive infiltrators into every sector and, IMHO, Abbott has done horrible job at keeping the barbarians outside the gates, though he’s far from alone in that.
The Left has long fantasized of co-opting Texas, particularly for its electoral votes, but also to tear down a one time bastion of a conservative model state.
They’ve played a long game and have now come within inches of succeeding.
It is depressing and demoralizing to watch.
Everything I've read about Texas says that Abbott has a clamp on the whole State, turning it into a far-right religious theocracy.
Whaat? Haha! I don’t know what you’re reading but cancel those subscriptions or toss the books because that is utter nonsense.
He’s gotten in bed with far too many corporate grifters and sold out his principles - if he ever had any - in far too many arenas, like green energy, and in Texas of all places!
He talks a good game and throws a bone now then when the political winds require it, but he’s proven himself to be a fraud and I dare say corrupt.
As a pharmacist, I do not think I would refuse to fill a prescription from a doctor unless I called him and gave him a good reason why. Is it because of an allergy, interaction, or side effect? Then contact the physician. Otherwise, I keep my politics, religion, and personal feelings out of my profession.
We should note that this area of regulation stemmed from an attempt for government to control drug prices. It has been effective not only at raising prices, but in disguising the increase in costs under various health care "insurance" schemes. The cartel you describe has a government enforced collection system, in the end enforced by the police power of the state.
Wait—so we SHOULD trust doctors?
I am a medical doctor licensed in Georgia and until recently New York, so I am fairly familiar with these problems. In basic sciences, the training with pharmacists probably overlaps enough to be comparable, for example, biochemistry and general physiology. But to think there is adequate clinical training is very mistaken. I am very surprised to read that Texas has erected this gatekeeping system. I don't want the hassles of dispensing meds, but to have to deal with an obstructive pharmacist would be absurd on its face not to mention infuriating. It's not unlike the HMO / prepaid program needing to pre-approve procedures before they get done and where you have to answer a hundred questions from a nurse overseer. I make no money nor participate in these prescriptive orders (medication prescriptions, radiology requests, etc). Very disturbing to say the least.
The red flag that immediately pops up is: immune from prosecution.
Shades of Covid mRNA shots!
I wonder the outcomes if some "ideological" pharmacists disappeared?
Sorry, @Amuse, you are WAY off base on this one. Physicians receive little education on pharmaceuticals while licensed pharmacists spend 6 years becoming experts on the subject. For decades physicians have learned more from drug salesmen than they learned in training. Always, the best interest of the patient is served by the teamwork of pharmacist with the physician.
Too fricken bad - I pay to see my doctor and not a pharmacist. Frankly I don’t trust anyone anymore related to the medical field.
Cooperation between providers seems ideal but Amuse suggests a unilateral arrangement. Not in TX so can’t know. I do count on my pharmacy to advise me and often ask given a new prescription. Pharmacists should advise not decide.
My friend who owns independent pharmacies and is morally against abortion pills, is legally mandated to dispense them in his state. He prices them sky high and refers customers to another pharmacy telling them they can buy them much cheaper there.
Having built a “switch” for the Texas Independent Pharmacist Association (late 90’s), I understand your position, but it’s fundamentally wrong. Have you ever interviewed an independent pharmacist? Have you interviewed a “corporate “ one?
You throw around “safety “ like it’s a casual word and give zero consideration to the training these folks are given to specialize in chemistry that the doctors haze comparably ZERO knowledge.
- pharm shopping
- bad interactions
- side affects
These are just a handful of the “safety “ concerns that you skip past in your rambling post.
Do better.
Ok good points - but those vetoes or concerns should be done by the pharmacist in consultation with the doctor, not unilaterally.
The doctor may also know things pertinent to the patient’s history which the pharmacist would not.
The pharmacist should not have blanket veto.