The Meta facility in Los Lunes NM is solar powered and has considerable battery backup power. It’s in the process of closed loop cooling. They employ 400 people. A community gain as are most of these centers.
The resistance seems a small but vocal bunch. Once citizens know truth the centers can help the communities. Some irrational folk out there.
I am not amused with the idea AI is the end all to be all for the U.S. economy. First, this belief suffers from what Friedrich Hayek referred to in his Nobel Prize in Economics lecture as, “The Pretense of Knowledge”. Second, it feels like putting the cart before the horse where our electrical grid fails us more than once every year. I have electric poles and wires in my suburban back yard. Third, our S&P 500 are all betting on this future and putting a lot of small retirement investors at serious risk. I haven’t invested in gold, but I definitely understand the rush by many to do so. I do not think mainstream America, in its wisdom, has bought this idea.
The AI phenomenon is not functioning as true capitalism should, wherein Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand in the free market causes self-interested people to accidentally act in the public interest, even when this is not something they intended.
During my lifetime we have gone from a small community school to huge consolidated school districts 30 miles from home, from a country store gas station a couple of miles from home to 45 miles to the nearest Walmart, from a hometown newspaper to Facebook, from two parent families growing much of their food to single working parents bringing home McDonalds, from birth control pills in the early 70’s to over-the-counter abortion pills. And now instead of local libraries, the humongous data centers are supposed to contain all knowledge. At this point in time, I am having a very hard time buying the concept that all progress has served us well.
A true silver lining on the dark cloud. Here in AZ we have always had water issues, until they can fully recycle any water they use it will be a problem. The most heinous of their underhanded tricks it the power utilization. They cannot have these centers stand on their own, so the local people, the residential cost for power will go up, sometimes very substantially. We are not talking about AI computing power, we are talking about data centers, where every bit of data is going to be held. A vast grid depending on what mega corp you are dealing with. A rich get far richer scheme, not a real benefit to the community, a cast of 500 maintenance workers. More so than actual engineers. These folks wil replace modules, or power units, not actually doing real engineering. That will be done somewhere else and they will be called in when a real issue comes up. Yes you have the temporary construction... Another big warehouse looking structure not exactly pleasing the the eye with its prison like appearance, fencing guarded gates...
I wonder if we are going to benefit humanity or ...
To think $80b data center doesn’t produce jobs is idiotic. Where is this $80b spent? Buildings, hardware, design…. All resulting in payrolls. No dollars are burned , buried or destroyed. Every last one of those dollars is in someone’s paycheck at some level of the economy. Engineers, builders and the lowly immigrant lawn mower gets paid.
The Meta facility in Los Lunes NM is solar powered and has considerable battery backup power. It’s in the process of closed loop cooling. They employ 400 people. A community gain as are most of these centers.
The resistance seems a small but vocal bunch. Once citizens know truth the centers can help the communities. Some irrational folk out there.
I am not amused with the idea AI is the end all to be all for the U.S. economy. First, this belief suffers from what Friedrich Hayek referred to in his Nobel Prize in Economics lecture as, “The Pretense of Knowledge”. Second, it feels like putting the cart before the horse where our electrical grid fails us more than once every year. I have electric poles and wires in my suburban back yard. Third, our S&P 500 are all betting on this future and putting a lot of small retirement investors at serious risk. I haven’t invested in gold, but I definitely understand the rush by many to do so. I do not think mainstream America, in its wisdom, has bought this idea.
The AI phenomenon is not functioning as true capitalism should, wherein Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand in the free market causes self-interested people to accidentally act in the public interest, even when this is not something they intended.
During my lifetime we have gone from a small community school to huge consolidated school districts 30 miles from home, from a country store gas station a couple of miles from home to 45 miles to the nearest Walmart, from a hometown newspaper to Facebook, from two parent families growing much of their food to single working parents bringing home McDonalds, from birth control pills in the early 70’s to over-the-counter abortion pills. And now instead of local libraries, the humongous data centers are supposed to contain all knowledge. At this point in time, I am having a very hard time buying the concept that all progress has served us well.
The omnicause has found another target for protest.
A true silver lining on the dark cloud. Here in AZ we have always had water issues, until they can fully recycle any water they use it will be a problem. The most heinous of their underhanded tricks it the power utilization. They cannot have these centers stand on their own, so the local people, the residential cost for power will go up, sometimes very substantially. We are not talking about AI computing power, we are talking about data centers, where every bit of data is going to be held. A vast grid depending on what mega corp you are dealing with. A rich get far richer scheme, not a real benefit to the community, a cast of 500 maintenance workers. More so than actual engineers. These folks wil replace modules, or power units, not actually doing real engineering. That will be done somewhere else and they will be called in when a real issue comes up. Yes you have the temporary construction... Another big warehouse looking structure not exactly pleasing the the eye with its prison like appearance, fencing guarded gates...
I wonder if we are going to benefit humanity or ...
To think $80b data center doesn’t produce jobs is idiotic. Where is this $80b spent? Buildings, hardware, design…. All resulting in payrolls. No dollars are burned , buried or destroyed. Every last one of those dollars is in someone’s paycheck at some level of the economy. Engineers, builders and the lowly immigrant lawn mower gets paid.
If the States don't want data centers, start installing them on military bases.