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Frank's avatar

In Memphis the opponents use a different tactic. They claim the gas turbines to power the Xai data center are causing air pollution in adjacent minority neighborhoods, and they are pushing the county to revoke permits. Of course, no one has documented any such pollution.

Notsothoreau's avatar

They do not need to builddata centers on farmland! You can't grow crops on just any ground. We need to stop devaluing farmland. Also, imagine what all those Chinese birthright citizens can do when they get sent over here. It needs to stop.

Richard Luthmann's avatar

Let’s cut the nonsense—if the Obama-Comey feds are right about what they claim I did to the Chinese, then I didn’t commit a crime, I executed economic warfare better than half the suits in Washington ever could.

https://luthmann.substack.com/p/the-most-dangerous-man-in-america

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/si-attorney-gets-4-years-for-running-scrap-metal-fraud-scheme/

Four years in federal prison for that? Spare me.

You want to talk about “national interest”? About standing up to adversaries? Then don’t pick and choose when it’s convenient. Because if the narrative is I outplayed a foreign economic rival, then by their own logic I didn’t betray this country—I served it. Maybe not in uniform—but don’t pretend the battlefield hasn’t changed. Those Chinese bastards are out to kill us all. The only difference now is that we have a President and Department of Justice who aren't in their back pocket.

Pnoldguy's avatar

If we were smart, we would shut down the entire non-profit scam. It has outlived its original purpose.

The non-profits in my town are buying up properties at an increasing rate.

The easiest way to reduce profit is increase CEO and manager pay until you reach zero.

Lorna's avatar

Amazon is going to build in my county. Supposed to break ground this year. In January the electric when up from 12¢ to 14¢ per kwh BECAUSE of Amazon (who has a hiring freeze). That means this summer (95°F - 125°F) my typical $125 electric bill will be $175.

Lakei Lakau Tengeh's avatar

what's been left out of this article is that the issue of what ultimate purpose data centers are being built for (could be another matter entirely but anyway...)...if we assume that they're designed to be the cornerstone of a global surveillance regime then the china-question and the water/electricity issues are secondary if not irrelevant...

David Westall's avatar

Thank you for this! Very enlightening.

John Wygertz's avatar

Empirical evidence has never stopped an environmental extremist group from frightening people and extracting cash from their donors (including the CCP).

SDN's avatar
5hEdited

"behind-the-meter generation, meaning on-site natural gas turbines, small modular reactors where regulators allow, and dedicated solar and geothermal plants whose output never touches the residential grid at all."

I must disagree with this statement. You say their output never touches the grid. That ducks the actual question: does their INPUT ever touch the grid? Is there any possibility that their system can draw from the grid "until we can build that generating capacity".... which never gets built. And ANY of their generating plans that involve wind and solar instead of baseline generation that can never drop below potential power requirements are not adequate by definition.

Unless those centers run solely on their own generated power, they can't honestly say that there will be no impact on the surrounding grid and the people who depend on it.

John Wygertz's avatar

Data center builders are willing to subsidize local residential customers. Take them up on the offer.