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Dan McRae's avatar

Outstanding article. I think it’s fair to say that if state law requires the carrying of your carry permit and your ID, then the gun community supports compliance with that, but does _not_ support failure to comply with an officer’s lawful orders, much less when you are armed.

Chet S's avatar

Your opposition gets to organize, retard

Hypernoia's avatar

Typical marxist globalist agitprop newspeak word phuckery. Wrapping their criminality in a thin candy coating of moral superiority. They obviously know their conduct is criminal, since they conspire in encrypted chats and are asking co-conspirators to delete evidence. And for all the talk of gestapo this and that, their actions betray they are not afraid, but instigators trying desperately to provoke a disparate reaction that can be used for narrative purposes (and potentially future impeachment/criminal investigations of their political opposition, as they are all screaming about)

Ruth H's avatar

Exactly. We don’t hate the media enough. MSM provokes these fools into thinking they are warriors, instead they are useful idiots.

Suzie's avatar

Thank you for such a detailed analysis of what happens when you play stupid games: you win stupid - and potentially fatal - prizes.

Now, if only facts mattered in this day and age.

Pelopidas's avatar

Question: Are the command and control people in the signal chat now accessories to murder?

Hansen1's avatar

Likely, as well as whoever has been funding these “rent-a-riot” organizations, who continue to supply “protestors” that violently disrupt Federal enforcements.

c Anderson's avatar

ACLU and other organizations who are “in the battle for open borders,” know how to protect themselves. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5705035-aclu-minnesota-federal-agent-tactics/

Pelopidas's avatar

She got fired, not prosecuted, is that correct?

c Anderson's avatar

Inciting violence is a crime.

Pelopidas's avatar

Different area of criminal law altogether. There are statutes on the books supported by thousands of court cases making conspirators culpable for each other’s actions. A group organized for the purpose of inciting others to break the law would have a high likelihood of reaching that level, in fact, I think the laws were written for just such cases. We will see.

c Anderson's avatar

Pelopodas, how about the nurse at Virginia Commonwealth University Health that just got fired after making videos suggesting injecting ICE agents with succinylcholine, and that women should date ICE agents and drug their food? Medical professionals?

c Anderson's avatar

Why do you ask a question you know the answer to? Inciting riots makes you culpable, unless you work for Democrats. 😉

Pelopidas's avatar

To see if someone knows more than I do, obviously. I think I know the basic framework, as I described. But there are multitudes of nuances to conspiracy cases. I was hoping for some interesting exchange on the technicalities of the situation.

c Anderson's avatar

Even SCOTUS changes their standing on previously accepted positions. It is frustrating. It is much like trying to put your finger on a ball of mercury—impossible.

Pelopidas's avatar

Sometimes. But sometimes the law is upheld. That’s another ball of wax altogether, however. I just wanted to plant the seed for those that had not considered the “accessory to murder” angle, while also checking to see if someone who knew more about such cases might weigh in on this case given the facts that are known thus far.

Te Time's avatar

I don’t know. I find it interesting that even the pentagon uses signal for communication. I don’t believe any of it. We’re is the proof?

Ruth H's avatar

There are screenshots of these signal chats.

Jack Sotallaro's avatar

Well thought out and presented. Thank you for doing the work.

c Anderson's avatar

Alex Pretti clearly had malice in mind. He had a previous confrontation with ICE officers, and like Luigi Mangione who killed Brian Thompson the United Healthcare CEO, was out for revenge.

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c Anderson's avatar

Chucky, malice is a LEGAL term. It means an intentional plan to break the law.

MeInKC's avatar

Very concise and well presented article. Tragically, the ones who should see it won't and those who do see it, won't believe it

George Garfinkel's avatar

If there is going to be responsibility placed for this man’s senseless death, I think it clearly belongs to Mayor Frey and Governor Walz, both of whom could have long ago put a stop to their senseless policies. Protesters can surely protest, but have no business being anywhere near law enforcement activities. How is it possible there was not a single member of Minnesota law enforcement anywhere near this so called protest?

Barb's avatar

As in all individual decisions, this man’s fate was his responsibility alone. He chose to incorporate other’s ideals with his own desires. Blaming other’s idiotic directives, from “leaders” or others, does not negate his responsibility for his own actions.

Saddletramp's avatar

No name calling, no weasel words, just calm rational and thoughtful analysis. Well done! Thank you.

Y. Andropov's avatar

John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were "protestors".

Tim's avatar

These ‘recruitment’ operations are aggregating the sickest and ugliest of our kind. Many truly do not care about the human suffering they purport to. Their movement is their god—and for some it is strictly excitement to combat boredom. For many it is about the money. One thing for sure: most of these folks don’t believe in the America that we have grown up in. I’ve never seen so many able-bodied people available during working hours; makes me wonder how many are living the ‘subsidized’ lifestyle.

New Considerist's avatar

A 37 year old in need of some commonsense advice from his parents seems to be part of the problem. Not unlike Renee Good, also 37, getting Venmoed by her mom in order to make the rent.

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Skenny's avatar

And at the risk of sounding selfish, though feeling principled, his estate owes me for my share of a tail light assembly on a government vehicle.